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Episode 20 · New this week
with Vanessa Chang — Cofounder, Bernie
Recorded live · San Francisco
We recorded this live in San Francisco, where every billboard is a sexy woman selling you an AI assistant. Vee flips the whole thing: the fantasy was never the assistant. It's competence.
Inside the episode
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Vee's definition of agency, the sharpest we've heard: it doesn't come from standing still
Why AI is being "done at" most people, and the catch-22 that keeps it that way
The tradwife shame baked into "I made it from scratch," and the brownie mix that needed exactly one egg to feel like love
Bernie, the fraud-catching SMS tool Vee built for seniors without raising a round or hiring a dev team
Know the shit out
of yourself.
Vanessa Chang — Ep. 20
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Two moments
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Show notes
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From the archive
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Episode 18
with Karina Alexanyan
Recorded the same week as this one. Vee's protopia closer picks up the thread Karina started.
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